How many times can I play a record before it "Wears Downward"?

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LiamM
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How many times can I play a record before it "Wears Down"?

Hello,
I have a really nice turntable with an Audio-Technica needle. I honey the Miles Davis kind of blue anthology, and I've been playing it a lot. It's the newest 180 gram pressing if you lot want to know. I got it brand new. How often tin can I play information technology before it starts to wear down?

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Re: How many times tin can I play a record before it "Wears Down"?

Post by ravelax » 26 Dec 2020 11:04

Unless yous play it on repeat several times every day it should terminal quite a long time if your turntable is gear up up correctly and you lot keep your records and stylus clean. Exactly how long information technology will final is impossible to predict, as it besides depends on several more factors such every bit stylus shape, stylus wear and the quality of the fabric used to make the record.


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Re: How many times can I play a record earlier it "Wears Down"?

Mail service past BMRR » 26 December 2020 12:43

ravelax is right.

If you continue the tape clean and continue the needle make clean, the record should terminal a long fourth dimension.

Be sure to replace your needle at the appropriate time. (Most diamond needles should be replaced after 500 hours of playing time.)


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Re: How many times tin I play a tape before it "Wears Downwards"?

Mail by Vinylfreak86 » 26 Dec 2020 thirteen:12

Many of my records are older than me or were pressed somewhere at the fourth dimension when I was planned as a kid. They were played on serious turntables a lot and today they still sound fine. But never play them repeatedly 2 or 3 times. Because vinyl becomes hot during the playback and it have to cool down before it tin can exist played again. This takes some hours,


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Re: How many times tin I play a record before it "Wears Downwards"?

Post by Woodbrains » 26 Dec 2020 13:33

Vinylfreak86 wrote: ↑

26 Dec 2020 thirteen:12

Many of my records are older than me or were pressed somewhere at the time when I was planned as a child. They were played on serious turntables a lot and today they still sound fine. But never play them repeatedly 2 or 3 times. Because vinyl becomes hot during the playback and information technology have to cool down before it can be played again. This takes some hours,

Howdy.

The record heating thing is a myth. Think about it, if the needle made the vinyl equally hot as information technology has been speculated, they would be a one play only, since the vinyl, existence thermoplastic would have the tiny modulations essentially rubbed out. I don't know who promulgated this nonsense, simply that is exactly what it is. Records final a long time, if looked afterwards.

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Re: How many times can I play a record before it "Wears Downwards"?

Post past nat » 26 Dec 2020 15:30

I think it probably is true that the vinyl that is correct in contact with the stylus melts, more often than not because of pressure, but and then it rehardens well-nigh immediately. It is an area essentially the same size equally the contact expanse, and it rehardens to the same shape as before because it really doesn't have anywhere else to get - the solid vinyl behind and effectually it isn't going anywhere. So there is a momentary softening that doesn't result in much modify.
I will say that the only one play a twenty-four hour period rule is psychologically helpful - yous are less likely to get tired of a piece of music if yous listen to it now and so, rather than binging on it.


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Re: How many times can I play a tape before information technology "Wears Down"?

Post by lenjack » 26 December 2020 15:58

Back in the 70s, a report was done on repeated plays in ane mean solar day. It was determined, that the vinyl deformed slightly-not equally a result of estrus, but due to force per unit area-but rebounded later on 24 hours, and it was recommended not to repeat play, more than once a twenty-four hours. Other studies refuted this. Another report was done with top quality equipment, paying a record ane,000 times. Tests of the record, before and later, revealed well-nigh no differences. Of course, this was nether ideal conditions.


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Re: How many times can I play a record before information technology "Wears Down"?

Post by 1200y3 » 26 Dec 2020 16:06

It would all depend on the stylus "trackibility". If information technology is mistracking it will wear the tape. A worn stylus volition kill a record also.

I wouldn't play more than twice in 24 hours anyhow.

In that location are a lot of technical issues about vinyl plastic and its properties related to heat and aging. When vinyl tape is "worked" it can modify its tension and shape in hours or days after. And so deformations tin actually evidence up in fourth dimension with no apply.

Record heating is not a myth, information technology is just non understood. When records are cut, the "negative" groove is removed as a hot thread. When it cools it is even so a very sparse flexible thread. Groove walls on the record are 1/2 as thick, and are therefore very thin and flexible. It has been stated before that a properly tracking conical will non damage the grooves due to flexibility. It won't take much friction to cause it to get warm, and we knows how easily vinyl warps when left in the sun, or on the amplifier.

The real question I have is the differences between new vinyl and vintage vinyl.


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Re: How many times tin I play a tape before it "Wears Down"?

Mail by Vinylfreak86 » 26 December 2020 16:18

1200y3 wrote: ↑

26 Dec 2020 16:06

The real question I have is the differences between new vinyl and vintage vinyl.

That is interesting question. I have some old soviet Melodiya vinyl records, which were fabricated out of bad quality vinyl (most probably some recycled plastic inside). Records were played a lot, they are noisy like yous would drive a motorcar on a concrete thruway, merely no signs of wear considering of playback. :) New virgin vinyl will nearly probably wear out faster.


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Postal service by ravelax » 26 Dec 2020 21:24

Slightly off topic here, just felt the need to annotate: I accept several Melodiya records and find them to generally be of expert quality. Listening to an splendid one as I blazon this, in fact! But every bit with most things from the old eastern bloc, I suppose quality varied a lot.


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Re: How many times can I play a record before information technology "Wears Downward"?

Post by backtotheblack » 27 Dec 2020 02:41

the groove melting myth comes from the fact that the cutting needle is heated and some numpty journalist got his wired crossed and since it was published in a mag it had to be correct... after all we all believe what journalists write.

if the groove were to heat while playing it would deform beyond playing ability as it would make full the gully behind as it traced the groove rendering the ability to play information technology again.


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Re: How many times tin can I play a record earlier it "Wears Downwards"?

Postal service past wolfie62 » 27 Dec 2020 07:44

Even at 33-1/iii rpm, the itty bitty contact area of the vinyl groove/tip moves at a very high speed relative to the diamond tip (even at inside radius). There is no time to heat/melt/warp/plasticize the vinyl. It's merely exactly similar moving your finger quickly through a candle flame: non enough time to burn your finger.

Merely in improver to that, many don't know the thermal backdrop of diamond. It is i of the almost thermally conductive materials known to man, conducting heat 5X-6X improve (faster) than copper. Heat is transferred out of the diamond at lightning speed into the shank (bonded) and into the cantilever (immediately for nude mounted), then radiated out through the cantilever (heat sink).

Diamond is such a fast usher, gyroscope bearings used in aerospace applications used diamond to stabilize thermal properties of the bearings. Gyros used in inertial navigation on tactical aircraft were painted aureate, they were so expensive.

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